Surgery — Member Experiences & Open Questions
Community-sourced surgery notes, member experiences, protocol summaries, and unresolved perioperative questions
This page gathers the fuller community-sourced surgery material that sits behind the main surgery guide.
This page mixes peer-shared experience, practitioner notes discussed in the group, and research-linked protocol ideas.
It is not a substitute for surgical, anaesthetic, oncology, or pharmacy advice.
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Overview
This material was compiled from the group's dedicated Surgery Pre & Post thread.
The core concern running through it is simple:
surgical stress, inflammation, tissue injury, and wound healing can create a short biological window that may favour metastasis or recurrence.
That is why members focused so heavily on:
reducing perioperative inflammation
preserving immune function
improving wound healing
choosing anaesthesia carefully
timing supplement pauses correctly
preparing emotionally as well as physically
Key protocol themes
Modified citrus pectin
Members repeatedly shared modified citrus pectin (MCP) as a perioperative tool.
The main pattern discussed was:
5 g three times daily
start at least 2 weeks before surgery
continue for at least 1 month after surgery
Some group discussion extended use much longer.
The practical rationale was reduction of cancer-cell adhesion through galectin-3 targeting.
A common issue raised was gas and digestive discomfort.
Flaxseed pre-op only
A recurring pre-op strategy was:
25 to 30 g fresh ground flaxseed daily
used for about 1 month before surgery
The strong note from the group was that this was treated as a pre-op window strategy, not a routine long-term post-op strategy.
Iodine before and after surgery
Members highlighted the survival difference reported in human breast-cancer data when iodine was used both before and after surgery rather than only after.
The unresolved practical issue was form.
The group repeatedly raised the question of molecular iodine versus Lugol's.
Boswellia before surgery
The group highlighted the window-of-opportunity breast-cancer trial using:
BosPur 800 mg three times daily
taken from surgical scheduling until the night before surgery
Members also discussed the relevance of higher-AKBA products relative to the trial formulation.
Propranolol plus etodolac
This was one of the most concrete protocol areas because trial-style dosing schedules were shared directly.
Two main schedules circulated in the group:
Trial-style 20-day window
Drug | Dose and timing |
|---|---|
Etodolac | 800 mg twice daily for the full 20-day period |
Propranolol | 20 mg twice daily for 5 pre-op days, then 80 mg twice daily on the day of surgery, then 40 mg twice daily for week 1 post-op, then 20 mg twice daily for week 2 |
Trial-style 6-day window
Drug | Dose and timing |
|---|---|
Propranolol | 10 mg four times daily from 3 days before surgery to 2 days after |
Etodolac | 400 mg twice daily from 3 days before surgery to 2 days after |
A separate group note also mentioned tadalafil plus influenza vaccine from a perioperative trial context.
That remains a much more specialist discussion.
NSAIDs and opioid avoidance
Members repeatedly raised the concern that opioids may not be the ideal default for cancer-related perioperative pain.
NSAIDs were discussed as potentially more favourable from a recurrence-risk angle, but always with bleeding-risk caution.
One unresolved question kept resurfacing:
ketorolac versus etodolac
Anaesthesia choice
This was one of the strongest discussion areas.
The main group message was:
ask specifically for propofol-based TIVA
do not assume anaesthetic choice is neutral
raise the question before the day of surgery
Menstrual-cycle timing
Premenopausal breast-cancer patients discussed trying to schedule surgery in the progesterone-dominant second half of the cycle.
The group understood that surgeons usually ask cycle dates mainly to exclude pregnancy.
Members stressed that anyone wanting cycle-aware scheduling needed to ask directly.
Dr. McKinney pre-op
The group repeatedly quoted and applied the pre-op material from Naturopathic Oncology.
Commonly started pre-op
Item | Group summary |
|---|---|
Ground flaxseed | 25 to 30 g daily for 1 month pre-op; stop post-op |
Green tea extract | around 2 weeks pre-op in some protocol summaries; stop before surgery |
PectaSol-C | start before surgery and continue after |
Homeopathic surgery mix | started the day before surgery by some members |
Wound-healing support when nutritionally depleted
The group highlighted:
vitamin C
zinc citrate
vitamin A
whey protein
Common stop list around 1 week before surgery
These were repeatedly flagged because of sedation, anaesthesia, or blood-pressure concerns:
St John's wort
valerian
kava
ginseng
skullcap or baicalein
passion flower
hops
melatonin
inositol
GABA
5-HTP
ephedra
licorice root
peony root
milletia
ginkgo
high-dose niacin or niacinamide
Common stop list around 3 days before surgery
These were repeatedly flagged because of bleeding or clotting concerns:
garlic
bromelain
vitamin K supplements
salvia
ginger
curcumin
rehmannia
ligusticum
atractylodes
carthamus
reishi
cordyceps
CoQ10
resveratrol
green tea extract
Practical notes from the thread
baicalein was specifically discussed because it appears both as a useful anti-inflammatory and on the stop list
some members were told that COC medications such as doxycycline, mebendazole, and metformin could continue, but only after individual review
members repeatedly emphasised giving the full supplement list to the anaesthetist
Psychology protocol
The mind-body message from this part of the thread was strong:
rehearse success
visualise the procedure going well
treat surgery preparation like serious performance preparation
Infection prevention
One practical note discussed was pre-op skin preparation with chlorhexidine when infection risk or immune compromise was a concern.
Dr. McKinney post-op
Preventing spread and limiting inflammatory fallout
The post-op emphasis stayed on:
PectaSol-C
catechin-containing antioxidant support
mixed tocopherols in some protocol versions
Immune support
The group discussion mentioned:
vitamin A
vitamin C
zinc
cat's claw
reishi
selected homeopathic supports
Wound-healing support
Item | Group summary |
|---|---|
Zinc citrate | 30 mg twice daily with food |
Vitamin A | about 3000 IU daily |
Vitamin C | 1000 mg three times daily |
Bromelain | used by some members for pain, oedema, and clot-risk logic |
Curcumin formulas | discussed as post-op anti-inflammatory supports |
Catechins | discussed for scar and adhesion logic |
Gotu kola | discussed for connective-tissue repair |
Topical wound-care ideas from the thread
Rosa Mosqueta / rosehip oil once the incision is closed
aloe vera for scar and tissue support
silicone gel
calendula
chickweed
comfrey leaf
Anaesthesia recovery
Two recurrent mentions were:
NAC to help recovery after anaesthesia
homeopathic support for post-anaesthetic symptoms
Gut and microbiome support
The group also discussed:
probiotics when diarrhoea follows surgery
restoring gut resilience during recovery
Physical activity
A strong repeated message from members was:
resume movement as early as safely possible
Emotional prep
This was one of the clearest themes in the thread.
Members repeatedly described emotional preparation as clinically meaningful, not optional.
Common themes included:
reduce fear before surgery
reduce feelings of aloneness and helplessness
use meditation, imagery, or coaching if needed
work consciously with relief and emotional release after surgery
combine this with the practical protocol, not instead of it
Some members described surprisingly low post-op pain after intense mind-body preparation.
That does not prove a universal effect.
It is still one of the strongest recurring lived-experience themes.
Surgical technique
One of the most valuable member warnings was about asking how the surgeon will approach the operation, not just whether the operation will happen.
Questions members wished they had asked earlier included:
what incision will be used?
how long will tissue be retracted?
is a more direct incision better than a more hidden one?
what are the trade-offs between cosmetic appearance and tissue trauma?
This came up especially in breast-surgery shares.
Nutrition and pain
Nutrition for healing
Members asked a practical question that comes up often:
How do you support healing and protein intake without feeling you are “feeding cancer”?
The thread included discussion of:
whey protein
collagen protein
lower-sugar diets
green tea
mushrooms
vitamins A, C, D, and E
selenium
zinc
A separate practitioner point discussed in the thread was that a very strong whole-food diet may reduce the need for some supplementary wound-healing support.
Member experiences
Major liver and pelvic surgery
A member described a long surgery involving multiple surgeons and extensive tumour removal.
They used the pre-op and post-op protocol discussed in the group.
The main takeaways were:
faster recovery than expected
strong healing of the incision line
particularly strong praise for PectaSol-C, the homeopathic surgery mix, and Rosa Mosqueta oil
Radical modified mastectomy
A member described intensive emotional and mind-body preparation before surgery.
The reported outcome was:
no pain medication needed
very fast return to light movement
a strong sense that the preparation changed her experience
Repeated lumpectomies
A member described a more complex path involving recurrence, unclear margins, and repeated surgery.
By the second lumpectomy, she had added:
propranolol
etodolac
MCP
high-dose IV vitamin C
Post-anaesthesia grogginess
A member shared severe post-op dizziness, dry mouth, blurry vision, and exhaustion.
A key practical discovery was that a scopolamine patch was contributing to the symptoms.
That became a useful reminder for other members to check for all patches and administered products after surgery.
Biopsy site concerns
A member raised the under-discussed issue of cumulative biopsy trauma.
The concern was that each repeated biopsy is still a wounding event.
That fits the broader surgery-risk logic discussed across the thread.
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